School is so useless.. they teach you a million things. And so much of it's wrong.
For example. Take what you remember from school about thanksgiving.
Any americans find it weird that Thanksgiving has only been a national holiday since 1941? And forget about apple cider. The main drink, even for kids. Was beer.
Beat a bunch of natives and take their land. Get drunk around the corpses. History is written by the winners.
Why can't they just teach kids the truth in school? Is there something im missing? No wonder our country is full of so many stupid people.
Kinda odd.
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Kinda odd.
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Re: Kinda odd.
And yet, so many things that I was taught in school come in handy every day. Things like touch-typing, all sorts of math, various sorts of programming, algorythm design, and other tech stuff. Things like how to correct or compose an essay, or how to defend an opinion. I've even learned how to cope with idiots.RoamingMadness wrote:School is so useless.. they teach you a million things. And so much of it's wrong.
For example. Take what you remember from school about thanksgiving.
Any americans find it weird that Thanksgiving has only been a national holiday since 1941? And forget about apple cider. The main drink, even for kids. Was beer.
Beat a bunch of natives and take their land. Get drunk around the corpses. History is written by the winners.
Why can't they just teach kids the truth in school? Is there something im missing? No wonder our country is full of so many stupid people.
School can be useless, but only if you're a liberal-arts student.
Sometimes you really have to wonder about the feasibility of an elephant deflowering a fly...
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Of course you learn some stuff. But why waste your time lying to you about so much history?
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Roam, I think prior to 1941 Thanksgiving may have been proclaimed annually by the president as the third thursday or something, and the 1941 law made it official without having executive proclaimation, but the first W proclaimed this in 1789:
The George Washington 1789 Thanksgiving proclamation. I want to start with that. We'll take a break and come back with the Real Story of Thanksgiving. First, here's what George Washington proclaimed in 1789:
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor -- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be -- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks -- for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation -- for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the tranquility [sic], union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed -- for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted -- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions -- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually -- to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed -- to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn [sic] kindness onto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord -- To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease [sic] of science among them and us -- and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York
the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
George Washington
Now, if a President were to write something to this effect today, he'd be lynched by liberals.
The George Washington 1789 Thanksgiving proclamation. I want to start with that. We'll take a break and come back with the Real Story of Thanksgiving. First, here's what George Washington proclaimed in 1789:
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor -- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be -- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks -- for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation -- for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the tranquility [sic], union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed -- for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted -- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions -- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually -- to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed -- to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn [sic] kindness onto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord -- To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease [sic] of science among them and us -- and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York
the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
George Washington
Now, if a President were to write something to this effect today, he'd be lynched by liberals.
Old Man.
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George Washington was basically ignored. A few other presidents tried it along the way but it never stuck. In fact, one woman, i believe Sarah Hale was her name. Had more to do with Thanksgiving than most presidents.
But that was just an example.
My point is the total waste of time public schooling is. Not only do they barely teach you anything. Half the shit they teach you is a complete fabrication.
But that was just an example.
My point is the total waste of time public schooling is. Not only do they barely teach you anything. Half the shit they teach you is a complete fabrication.
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Who cares, christmas and easter for example were pagan holidays before being christianized and thier meanings totally changed. Facts get changed and history becames rewritten to best fit a society or culture. Everyone does this why would you incriminate or make yourself look weak, that would only cause doubt or fear among your own population.
Secondly, when did you first learn about thanksgiving or the pilgrams really? Five or so I'm going to assume. Who in thier right mind would teach thier kids about human slaughter or even put those ideas in thier head if they could even comprehend such things.
Thirdly, if you don't like the history you're being taught go visit some libraries read some books and draw your own conclusions about these things, not everyone has the same opinion about historical events. My old history professor put it best.
History is just a matter of perspective.
Secondly, when did you first learn about thanksgiving or the pilgrams really? Five or so I'm going to assume. Who in thier right mind would teach thier kids about human slaughter or even put those ideas in thier head if they could even comprehend such things.
Thirdly, if you don't like the history you're being taught go visit some libraries read some books and draw your own conclusions about these things, not everyone has the same opinion about historical events. My old history professor put it best.
History is just a matter of perspective.
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Okay. No offense. The completely domination of a race and inviting them to dinner is not just a matter of perspective.History is just a matter of perspective.
And no one is saying you have to highlight the bloody details to a 5 year old. But straight up lying to them is worse in my opinion. The vast majority of people will take what they learn as a child as truth.
For example. A very stupid exboss of mine actually believed carrots made your eyes blue until she was like 26+ AND I CORRECTED HER. Why? Because her mom told her that when she was like five.
Now she isn't exactly the brightest thing in the world. Or in any room with a lamp for that matter. But my point is still there i think.
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First of all, I think we're taught that the first thanksgiving was on behalf of the pilgrims, who did not killing of anyone. It was quite some time, in fact, it was really the settling of the west before we began to actually run native americans from their lands and commit any genocide. Even your distortion of thanksgiving as we're taught is off the mark.RoamingMadness wrote:Okay. No offense. The completely domination of a race and inviting them to dinner is not just a matter of perspective.History is just a matter of perspective.
And no one is saying you have to highlight the bloody details to a 5 year old. But straight up lying to them is worse in my opinion. The vast majority of people will take what they learn as a child as truth.
For example. A very stupid exboss of mine actually believed carrots made your eyes blue until she was like 26+ AND I CORRECTED HER. Why? Because her mom told her that when she was like five.
Now she isn't exactly the brightest thing in the world. Or in any room with a lamp for that matter. But my point is still there i think.
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My point is NOT about Thanksgiving. I was just using that as an example. But even so. IT WOULDNT BE OFF THE MARK IF THEY JUST TAUGHT US THE TRUTH.
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How is it not a matter of perspective.
Take 9/11 for example, 10 years from now.
From our perspective and most of the world, that was a devestating tragedy and we should mourn the loss of the innocent.
From some others perspectives that was a great victory and should be celebrated.
That is one major historical event spun two completely different ways just because of the angle they view it at.
Take 9/11 for example, 10 years from now.
From our perspective and most of the world, that was a devestating tragedy and we should mourn the loss of the innocent.
From some others perspectives that was a great victory and should be celebrated.
That is one major historical event spun two completely different ways just because of the angle they view it at.
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Koric..
You are dumb.
You are dumb.
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Sooner or later i know someone will question me on why you're dumb. So i've decided to clarify.
You're 9/11 example is a good example of perspective.
How would you feel if we looked at it as a devestating tragedy and we should mourn the loss of the innocent. And everyone else looked at it as a day when goats sent us gifts from mars. And then danced around the campfire singing christmas carols.
See the difference? One is a complete fabrication. One is a matter of perspective.
THE POINT WAS SCHOOL IS SHIT. NOT A DEBATE ON THANKSGIVING!!!!
You're 9/11 example is a good example of perspective.
How would you feel if we looked at it as a devestating tragedy and we should mourn the loss of the innocent. And everyone else looked at it as a day when goats sent us gifts from mars. And then danced around the campfire singing christmas carols.
See the difference? One is a complete fabrication. One is a matter of perspective.
THE POINT WAS SCHOOL IS SHIT. NOT A DEBATE ON THANKSGIVING!!!!
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The fact that you're grouping all of school onto HISTORY, which is in fact a subject of perspective, in my mind makes you the dumb one. The second fact being you resorting to personal attacks on my opinions. So i'll put it plainly, fuck you.
Try learning how to fucking do calculus or how a fucking animal cell works and quit bitching about history which is as biased as the news you watch everyday. I shouldn't have even posted since Mac had it right on the first reply.
Try learning how to fucking do calculus or how a fucking animal cell works and quit bitching about history which is as biased as the news you watch everyday. I shouldn't have even posted since Mac had it right on the first reply.
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Did you learn alot of calc in highschool? Because we didn't.Try learning how to fucking do calculus
And i learned this is like 5th gradeor how a fucking animal cell works
I called you dumb because HISTORY is a matter of perspective. Any event which has the same consistent facts, but a different view.
THE PROBLEM WITH SAYING THANKSGIVING IS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE IS THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME FACTS.
One version of the story is true. One version of the story IS COMPLETELY FALSE. One of them DIDN'T HAPPEN.
That's akin to saying the moon is made of grapefruit and i'm a teacup. OH its all just a matter of perspective. Wouldn't you call me dumb too?
THE TOPIC. FOR THE 103RD TIME.
Is NOT about the things school teachs you. For fukes sake you are there 12 years, 7 hours a day. If you want to throw at me the 1 or 2 things you've learned, go right ahead and make yourself look stupid.
The vast majority has no impact on real life, at all. It doesn't even prep you for college in most cases. The entire public school system is a fucking waste of your youth masked as getting a good education.
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you do infact learn important things in school.
the fact that some things (particularly in history) are not given to be the complete truth isn't that big a deal anyways.
and yes, people who took calculus, learned calculus, same with biology, and physics and chemistry.
hell i even learned a few things i didnt know about literature in my senior english class even though i had read all the books for the class years before i took it.
but i still hate shakespear, what a fucking garbage writer.
also, if your thanksgiving example isn't true, how about a real example that shows us something taught in public school that is 100% a lie, and cant be interpreted differently than such?
that'd really help your argument imo
the fact that some things (particularly in history) are not given to be the complete truth isn't that big a deal anyways.
and yes, people who took calculus, learned calculus, same with biology, and physics and chemistry.
hell i even learned a few things i didnt know about literature in my senior english class even though i had read all the books for the class years before i took it.
but i still hate shakespear, what a fucking garbage writer.
also, if your thanksgiving example isn't true, how about a real example that shows us something taught in public school that is 100% a lie, and cant be interpreted differently than such?
that'd really help your argument imo
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Reperations for slavery was the first thing that came to my mind. But that may have just been my teachers.StormCrow wrote: also, if your thanksgiving example isn't true, how about a real example that shows us something taught in public school that is 100% a lie, and cant be interpreted differently than such?
It's hard to focus this on one subject, when more than likely it's subjective based on your teachers. The fact of the matter is, a teacher can tell kids anything. And they will take it as fact.
And while you may have learned some things in highschool. The school i went to (i shit you not one of the top public schools in Tn). Our basic math classes were algebra 1&2 and geometry. The next class you could take was AP precal. You got a college credit for it, but had to be preapproved to take it. Which 99% of the students wouldnt be.
The next highschool i went to, before i dropped out, not only didn't offer any calc class, but tried to make me take prealgebra. Because -they- required it. Even though i'd already passed algebra 1&2.
Can you honestly say you took 4 years of knowledge away from highschool? Timewise we're talking 210 hours worth (in college terms). That's about the same amount of hours needed for a PHD.
See the problem?
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